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Thread: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

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    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    I have a Microsoft store-bought version of Windows 7 professional.
    It was installed on once machine, which was retired; and then on another.
    I'm about to retire the second machine, which had to be activated by telephone
    when I activated it last (as it was a totally different machine than the
    original one).

    I'd like to use the Windows 7 Pro on another machine (and I'll put WinXP
    on the current machine - so it will be a swap - but that's not the question).

    The question is whether there is a limit to the NUMBER of machines that
    SEQUENTIALLY can have the same product key.

    To clarify, there will NEVER be more than one machine with the same product
    key at the same time. The question is simply whether there is a limit to
    the NUMBER of machines that used the license, over time?


  2. #2
    Ext User(choro) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    On 24/08/2013 21:34, Eddie Powalski wrote:
    > I have a Microsoft store-bought version of Windows 7 professional.
    > It was installed on once machine, which was retired; and then on another.
    > I'm about to retire the second machine, which had to be activated by telephone
    > when I activated it last (as it was a totally different machine than the
    > original one).
    >
    > I'd like to use the Windows 7 Pro on another machine (and I'll put WinXP
    > on the current machine - so it will be a swap - but that's not the question).
    >
    > The question is whether there is a limit to the NUMBER of machines that
    > SEQUENTIALLY can have the same product key.
    >
    > To clarify, there will NEVER be more than one machine with the same product
    > key at the same time. The question is simply whether there is a limit to
    > the NUMBER of machines that used the license, over time?


    Not if it is the Retail version.
    --
    choro
    *****

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    Ext User() Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    On 8/24/2013 1:34 PM, Eddie Powalski wrote:
    > I have a Microsoft store-bought version of Windows 7 professional.
    > It was installed on once machine, which was retired; and then on another.
    > I'm about to retire the second machine, which had to be activated by telephone
    > when I activated it last (as it was a totally different machine than the
    > original one).
    >
    > I'd like to use the Windows 7 Pro on another machine (and I'll put WinXP
    > on the current machine - so it will be a swap - but that's not the question).
    >
    > The question is whether there is a limit to the NUMBER of machines that
    > SEQUENTIALLY can have the same product key.
    >
    > To clarify, there will NEVER be more than one machine with the same product
    > key at the same time. The question is simply whether there is a limit to
    > the NUMBER of machines that used the license, over time?
    >


    If it is the Windows 7 retail version, there is no expiration on the
    number of times the particular product key can be used for a Windows 7
    installation. However, the only restriction is that this key can only
    be applied to just one Win7 installation at a time, i.e., no concurrent
    installation, including a virtual machine.

    For the Windows 7 OEM ("system builder") install, its product key can
    only be applied to the system with which it was built and restricted
    permanently to that system.

    Note that if the purchased Windows 7 Professional is an upgrade install
    and not a full-install, then the Windows XP install going into the old
    machine cannot be the qualifying OS.

    I think this covers all of the fine points.

    GR

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    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:38:53 -0700, Ghostrider <" wrote:

    > I think this covers all of the fine points.


    It's a full retail version!
    So, that is good news.
    The gist is that I can put it on as many machines, sequentially,
    as I like.
    Thanks!


  5. #5
    Ext User(richard) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:08:04 +0000 (UTC), Eddie Powalski wrote:

    > On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:38:53 -0700, Ghostrider <" wrote:
    >
    >> I think this covers all of the fine points.

    >
    > It's a full retail version!
    > So, that is good news.
    > The gist is that I can put it on as many machines, sequentially,
    > as I like.
    > Thanks!


    Actually, you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
    want, that you own.
    If you were to install that item on machines owned by friends, and M$ sees
    them operating from several locations, then that is a violation.
    Then again, M$ may see it as a violation if you are using two machines with
    the same license and key at the same time.

  6. #6
    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:10:04 -0700, richard wrote:

    > you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
    > want, that you own.


    Now that's interesting.

    I have the box in front of me. It says:
    Windows 7 Ultimate
    Microsoft Company Store Purchase
    Do not lend or make illegal copies.
    32-bit software (and 64-bit software)

    There is a proof of license card, with a product key, which says
    "Label not to be sold separately".

    There is also an orange booklet for Windows 7, and an upgrade card.
    But the actual license terms don't appear to be printed.

    > M$ may see it as a violation if you are using two machines with
    > the same license and key at the same time.


    Hmm... doesn't that contradict your first statement that I can
    use it on any number of machines that I own at one location?


  7. #7
    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:10:04 -0700, richard wrote:

    > you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
    > want, that you own.


    On the side, in small print, it says:
    Windows 7 Ultimate
    You must accept the enclosed license terms before you can use
    this software. To read the license terms, go to
    www.microsoft.com/useterms. For use on one computer or device.
    Activation by phone or Internet is required.


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    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 04:12:49 +0000, Eddie Powalski wrote:

    > Windows 7 Ultimate
    > You must accept the enclosed license terms before you can use
    > this software. To read the license terms, go to
    > www.microsoft.com/useterms. For use on one computer or device.
    > Activation by phone or Internet is required.


    Going here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal...s/default.aspx

    I see this PDF:
    http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...3223886d7e.pdf

    Which says:
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  9. #9
    Ext User(richard) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 04:09:16 +0000 (UTC), Eddie Powalski wrote:

    > On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:10:04 -0700, richard wrote:
    >
    >> you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
    >> want, that you own.

    >
    > Now that's interesting.
    >
    > I have the box in front of me. It says:
    > Windows 7 Ultimate
    > Microsoft Company Store Purchase
    > Do not lend or make illegal copies.
    > 32-bit software (and 64-bit software)
    >
    > There is a proof of license card, with a product key, which says
    > "Label not to be sold separately".
    >
    > There is also an orange booklet for Windows 7, and an upgrade card.
    > But the actual license terms don't appear to be printed.
    >
    >> M$ may see it as a violation if you are using two machines with
    >> the same license and key at the same time.

    >
    > Hmm... doesn't that contradict your first statement that I can
    > use it on any number of machines that I own at one location?


    No. I'm just saying don't be online with more than two at the same time.
    They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.

  10. #10
    Ext User(Dustin) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    Eddie Powalski <Eddie@example.com> wrote in news:kvc01c$926$1@dont-
    email.me:

    > On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:10:04 -0700, richard wrote:
    >
    >> you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
    >> want, that you own.

    >
    > Now that's interesting.
    >
    > I have the box in front of me. It says:
    > Windows 7 Ultimate
    > Microsoft Company Store Purchase
    > Do not lend or make illegal copies.
    > 32-bit software (and 64-bit software)


    http://preview.tinyurl.com/lzxymax

    My understanding of this is that the first computer you installed it on was
    the only legal computer to have it. When that machine retired/died
    whatever, so did the license. The license is only valid for a single
    machine. One time.


    If you comply with these license terms, you have the rights below for each
    license you
    acquire.

    1. OVERVIEW.

    a. Software. The software includes desktop operating system software.
    This software does not
    include Windows Live services. Windows Live services are available
    from Microsoft under a
    separate agreement.

    b. License Model. The software is licensed on a per copy per computer
    basis. A computer is a
    physical hardware system with an internal storage device capable
    of running the software. A
    hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate
    computer.

    2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.

    a. One Copy per Computer. The software license is permanently
    assigned to the computer with
    which the software is distributed. That computer is the licensed
    computer.

    b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two processors on
    the licensed
    computer at one time. Unless otherwise provided in these license
    terms, you may not use the
    software on any other computer.

    c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license terms,
    only one user may use the
    software at a time on the licensed computer.

    d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one
    version, such as 32-bit and
    64-bit. You may use only one version at one time. If the
    manufacturer or installer provides you
    with more than one language version, you may use only one language
    version at one time.

    3. ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.

    a. Multiplexing. Hardware or software you use to

    pool connections, or

    reduce the number of devices or users that directly access or
    use the software

    (sometimes referred to as multiplexing or pooling), does not
    reduce the number of licenses
    you need.

    b. Font Components. While the software is running, you may use its
    fonts to display and print
    content. You may only

    embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding
    restrictions in the fonts; and

    temporarily download them to a printer or other output device
    to print content.

    c. Icons, Images and Sounds. While the software is running, you may
    use but not share
    15. DOWNGRADE. Instead of using the software, you may use one of the
    following earlier versions:

    Windows Vista Ultimate,

    Microsoft Windows XP Professional,

    Microsoft Windows Professional x64 Edition, or

    Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition.

    This agreement applies to your use of the earlier versions. If the
    earlier version includes different
    components, any terms for those components in the agreement that comes
    with the earlier version
    apply to your use of them. Neither the manufacturer or installer, nor
    Microsoft is obligated to supply
    earlier versions to you. You must obtain the earlier version
    separately. At any time, you may replace
    an earlier version with this version of the software.


    > There is a proof of license card, with a product key, which says
    > "Label not to be sold separately".
    >
    > There is also an orange booklet for Windows 7, and an upgrade card.
    > But the actual license terms don't appear to be printed.
    >
    >> M$ may see it as a violation if you are using two machines with
    >> the same license and key at the same time.

    >
    > Hmm... doesn't that contradict your first statement that I can
    > use it on any number of machines that I own at one location?
    >
    >




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  11. #11
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    Eddie Powalski wrote:
    > On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:10:04 -0700, richard wrote:
    >
    >> you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
    >> want, that you own.

    >
    > Now that's interesting.
    >
    > I have the box in front of me. It says:
    > Windows 7 Ultimate
    > Microsoft Company Store Purchase
    > Do not lend or make illegal copies.
    > 32-bit software (and 64-bit software)
    >
    > There is a proof of license card, with a product key, which says
    > "Label not to be sold separately".
    >
    > There is also an orange booklet for Windows 7, and an upgrade card.
    > But the actual license terms don't appear to be printed.
    >
    >> M$ may see it as a violation if you are using two machines with
    >> the same license and key at the same time.

    >
    > Hmm... doesn't that contradict your first statement that I can
    > use it on any number of machines that I own at one location?
    >


    There is supposed to be a License file on the machine. This
    recipe tells you how to find it.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...-License-Terms

    I can find PDF versions on the Microsoft site, but I'd prefer
    you read the one that actually came with your OS (for best
    accuracy). That's because there are so many of these
    files.

    http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...2d3a9a0497.pdf

    Generally, you can move a Retail installation, but then you can no longer
    use that OS on the previous machine. And the only ways to get caught are:

    1) OS phones home. Policy may have changed with time, as to how
    often this is done.
    2) Windows Update.

    The Activation server, will know which hardware config, was the last
    to use the license. The motherboard NIC MAC address, being a nice
    serial number they can use to track you. Each motherboard has a
    different MAC address, as defined by the Ethernet standards.

    If the non-current machine shows up in Windows Update, then
    they'll know.

    Paul

  12. #12
    Ext User(p-0.0-h the cat) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 04:28:59 +0000 (UTC), Dustin
    <abughunter@gmail.com> wrote:

    >My understanding of this is that the first computer you installed it on was
    >the only legal computer to have it. When that machine retired/died
    >whatever, so did the license. The license is only valid for a single
    >machine. One time.


    Wrong. A retail licence can be transferred. An OEM licence cannot.

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  13. #13
    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:15:09 -0500, richard wrote:

    > No. I'm just saying don't be online with more than two at the same time.
    > They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.


    I don't think a MAC address makes it through the router.
    Does it?

    Plus, you can set all your PCs to have the same MAC address if you like.
    Right?


  14. #14
    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 04:28:59 +0000, Dustin wrote:

    > One Copy per Computer. The software license is permanently
    > assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed.
    > That computer is the licensed computer


    My license is different, as shown here:
    http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...3223886d7e.pdf

    Windows 7 Ultimate retail version apparently allows 1 computer at a time:

    a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the
    software on one computer. That computer is the “licensed computer.”
    b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two
    processors on the licensed computer at one time. Unless otherwise
    provided in these license terms, you may not use the software on
    any other computer.
    c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license terms,
    only one user may use the software at a time.
    d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one version,
    such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may install and use only one version
    at one time.


  15. #15
    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:15:09 -0500, richard wrote:

    > They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.


    The license says they collect the IP address (and other stuff):
    http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...3223886d7e.pdf

    4. MANDATORY ACTIVATION.
    During activation, the software will send information about the
    software and the computer to Microsoft. This information includes the
    version, language and product key of the software, the Internet
    protocol address of the computer, and information derived from the
    hardware configuration of the computer.

    For more information, see go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609.

    When I went to that URL, it didn't say *anything* useful to
    clarify if the MAC addresses (ethernet & wireless & bluetooth) are
    sent or not.


  16. #16
    Ext User(p-0.0-h the cat) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:16:43 +0000 (UTC), Eddie Powalski
    <Eddie@example.com> wrote:

    >On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:15:09 -0500, richard wrote:
    >
    >> No. I'm just saying don't be online with more than two at the same time.
    >> They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.

    >
    >I don't think a MAC address makes it through the router.
    >Does it?
    >
    >Plus, you can set all your PCs to have the same MAC address if you like.
    >Right?


    The operating system has direct access to the MAC address/ess coded
    into the hardware. That address can be sent by Microsoft to Microsoft
    at the application layer during the activation process and/or
    whenever.

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  17. #17
    Ext User(Eddie Powalski) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license bere-used

    On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:41:56 -0400, Paul wrote:

    > The Activation server, will know which hardware config, was the last
    > to use the license. The motherboard NIC MAC address, being a nice
    > serial number they can use to track you. Each motherboard has a
    > different MAC address, as defined by the Ethernet standards.


    I wonder if they really use the NIC address because that can be
    trivially easily spoofed with freeware...

    I looked at their privacy statement, and it didn't say:
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609


  18. #18
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    Eddie Powalski wrote:
    > On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:41:56 -0400, Paul wrote:
    >
    >> The Activation server, will know which hardware config, was the last
    >> to use the license. The motherboard NIC MAC address, being a nice
    >> serial number they can use to track you. Each motherboard has a
    >> different MAC address, as defined by the Ethernet standards.

    >
    > I wonder if they really use the NIC address because that can be
    > trivially easily spoofed with freeware...
    >
    > I looked at their privacy statement, and it didn't say:
    > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609


    This is the only article I have on Activation.

    http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm

    The MAC is stored in hardware somewhere, which is where
    the computer gets the value when booted for the first
    time. Some motherboards, the BIOS flasher has a
    command line option to change the value, but not
    all motherboards do that. My NVidia Nforce2 based
    motherboard, is the only one I have where the MAC
    can be changed via the BIOS flasher. And retail
    motherboards, sometimes have a sticker with the MAC
    printed on it, in case the hardware value ever needs
    to be corrected (by say, the factory).

    Not many boards, allow this sort of thing...

    http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...age=1&count=17

    This topic doesn't seem to be documented very
    well, and perhaps that is on purpose.

    Paul

  19. #19
    Ext User(richard) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:27:14 +0000 (UTC), Eddie Powalski wrote:

    > On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:15:09 -0500, richard wrote:
    >
    >> They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.

    >
    > The license says they collect the IP address (and other stuff):
    > http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...3223886d7e.pdf
    >
    > 4. MANDATORY ACTIVATION.
    > During activation, the software will send information about the
    > software and the computer to Microsoft. This information includes the
    > version, language and product key of the software, the Internet
    > protocol address of the computer, and information derived from the
    > hardware configuration of the computer.
    >
    > For more information, see go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609.
    >
    > When I went to that URL, it didn't say *anything* useful to
    > clarify if the MAC addresses (ethernet & wireless & bluetooth) are
    > sent or not.


    tha'ts because they don't want you to know EXACTLY what all information is
    being gathered and sent to M$. If they did that, that could opne them up to
    lawsuits by the gazillions for invasion of privacy.
    Who knows? They might even be cloning your drives.

    I"ve always wondered though, with a few trillion computers online, what are
    the odds that no two ever have the same mac address?

    Knowing the IP only helps them to know where in the world you are.
    The IP itself does not identify your precise location.

  20. #20
    Ext User(Don Phillipson) Guest

    Re: How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used

    "Eddie Powalski" <Eddie@example.com> wrote in message
    news:kvb5ce$gkv$1@dont-email.me...

    > I have a Microsoft store-bought version of Windows 7 professional. . . .
    > The question is simply whether there is a limit to
    > the NUMBER of machines that used the license, over time?


    If Microsoft had a legal department, you might think they would be
    glad to tell you.
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